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Post by RED on Nov 15, 2015 0:56:10 GMT -9
That's not what I said. What I'm saying is that bad people shouldn't be higher-ups. (unnecessarily large image macro) So basically, me being immature makes me the next Hitler? That's what I'm getting at.
I just want to reiterate two things.
One is that MajesticFireFlame and MaskedDalek47 most likely have more to say about this, and another is that even inside of PPR, you've made more mistakes than any other admin I've seen. You failed to notice rulebreakers in the same server as you, and even worse, you were in support of giving me in specific three warnings with no real structured reason.
These combined with your habits outside of PPR (a few of which I've actually listed) add up to "a bad person overall." I legitimately don't see why you should be an admin here.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 2:37:08 GMT -9
(unnecessarily large image macro) So basically, me being immature makes me the next Hitler? That's what I'm getting at.
I just want to reiterate two things.
One is that MajesticFireFlame and MaskedDalek47 most likely have more to say about this, and another is that even inside of PPR, you've made more mistakes than any other admin I've seen. You failed to notice rulebreakers in the same server as you, and even worse, you were in support of giving me in specific three warnings with no real structured reason.
These combined with your habits outside of PPR (a few of which I've actually listed) add up to "a bad person overall." I legitimately don't see why you should be an admin here.
"Bad person overall." Wow. I can't believe you have the guts to say that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 6:21:00 GMT -9
Reading over this once more, I
-Support the unadmining of Buizelzzz.
As Daisuke said, Aidan was unadminned as he was both "rude" and didn't do his job on the game or forums. (FYI The Admins here ALL do their job, they rush to help on the servers once someone says "There's a rule breaker on PPR") Scrag, while he may be rude at times, does his job and is improving. Also most of your points made happen to just be opinionized, and according to Scrag you both made up for it, and even then, why hold someone accountable for something that happened MONTHS ago. That's like trying to get a 80 year old man arrested for when he said "Fuck you bitch" to a person when he was 20, simply not possible or logical. If your evidence was more recent, such as yesterday, last week, or even 2 weeks ago I would take it more seriously but, Scrag does his job as an admin, and he does it well. I also can see MAJOR improvement in his rudeness and such, and he's making an effort to be nicer. He isn't the rude person I met on PPR a year or two ago, he's much more improved and well, better. Thank you and have a nice day.
As for your meantion of the basically calling him the "worst admin", that title belongs to me. And everybody makes mistakes, him being too enveloped into his own roleplay isn't something he should be held accountable for, unless he specifically said something along the lines of "Fuck you guys I'm not banning him enjoy lolzers xxxDDD", which I doubt he would.
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Post by Masked on Nov 15, 2015 6:55:27 GMT -9
I'm just going to start off by saying if things go on and on outside of the forums or game, keep in mind that it doesn't necessarily nothave connections or vice versa. I can see where you guys are saying this are getting at, and I can also see why. But if someone's going to do something rather unsavory on say, Skype or Steam. The receiver could just go "ok" and ignore it for the most part, but once they're in the game, mayhem could possibly ensue if the sender is on also.
And yeah, I don't really see how Aidan is relevant at all to this.
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Post by Buizelzzz on Nov 15, 2015 7:34:11 GMT -9
(unnecessarily large image macro) So basically, me being immature makes me the next Hitler? That's what I'm getting at.
I just want to reiterate two things.
One is that MajesticFireFlame and MaskedDalek47 most likely have more to say about this, and another is that even inside of PPR, you've made more mistakes than any other admin I've seen. You failed to notice rulebreakers in the same server as you, and even worse, you were in support of giving me in specific three warnings with no real structured reason.
These combined with your habits outside of PPR (a few of which I've actually listed) add up to "a bad person overall." I legitimately don't see why you should be an admin here.
1. Have you not known that no admin is perfect? Also I'm one of the few -active- so it makes since that you've seen me mess up. You've been with me the longest and I believe your statement is completely bogus and yes, you even messed up yourself insulting me in-game. Even Zelda makes mistakes. Also, I didn't give you the warnings, Maj did. Don't bring that shit up if I was mislead. You're basically saying because I thought I was given the entire Skype Chat, I should be held accountable for having a thought process. 2. I legitimately see someone who is desperate to get me unadminned so that they may feel good. That's just me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 7:47:14 GMT -9
-Support
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Post by Buizelzzz on Nov 15, 2015 7:49:43 GMT -9
If something happens outside of PPR like raiding Reddit via 4chan, why the should I get the blame here? Sure, I raided it. THAT'S ME. I'm -IMMATURE- I'm not anybodies rolemodel and that fact of the matter is that I've been an admin long enough and done my job well-enough to know the reasons that Silan gives are all completely bias towards his own intentions. He doesn't like me because 8 month ago we use to be friends along with easy and maj. Fallout happened because arguments kept starting and it lead to a whole shit ton of shitstorminess. Leading to this post. I shouldn't have to be stoned for something that is easily classified as sucking privacy away.
Admins aren't perfect... I'm not perfect. You're not perfect. Silan... You may have a standard of admin. For heavenly sake, don't enforce that on PPR. Who the hell made you higher than the admins here?
We're all seperate entities as Admins. Masked is a good comedian, I'm an immature little shit. Ivy is a good artist and a good speaker. Golden is a good prankster, I can name a whole tons more. But do you know what we all have in common? We do our job. We don't just do our job. We admin the community.
Nobody should have to face unadmin because of petty arguments that had little to do with PPR in its self. I shouldn't be judged like that. Neither should the same be for Golden or Masked or Ivy.
Your argument is more flawed and if you look at lots of the past complaints. Do you know why they won? Those people were harming the community.
My petty arguments can rustle a lot of jimmies, but I've never gone out of my way to harm my community. Personal stuff isn't meant to go public. It's called personal for a reason. This is the type of shit that allowed SJW warlords to take down people's jobs and that type of stuff in the real world.
Every admin is different and we WILL NOT fall under your standard of 'be perfect, do it good, mess up out of game and fuck you'.
Thank you.
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Post by Buizelzzz on Nov 15, 2015 8:00:03 GMT -9
Now let's deconstruct the argument and sum it up as a whole so everybody can better understand it for what it really is.
" HEY, LOOK AT THIS GUY. HE'S AN ASSHOLE. "
I'm being for real, This entire argument can be trash compacted it into just that statement.
You should realize if he was aiming for another intent such as ACTUALLY getting me unadminned for something reasonable he'd add at least two or three positives and not use the shit out of SJW tactics and my personal stuff.
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Post by Buizelzzz on Nov 15, 2015 8:14:15 GMT -9
The argument in full of basics is really just him citing my personal stuff that he deems I'm an asshole for. That type of argument in its self is filled with holes and blaming people for what they do outside of PPR and how they handle shit is just backfiring at this point.
I could point out seriously everyone with a brain and speaks in this community that I have on my skype and steam.
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Post by goldencherriecoke on Nov 15, 2015 8:17:49 GMT -9
-support
Most of this is just personal stuff and opinions. Scrag does his job well enough, and something like this shouldn't get him unadmined.
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Post by Buizelzzz on Nov 15, 2015 8:23:59 GMT -9
I have a perfect example of this, being when I first got a taste of just how inconsiderate he can be. We had gotten into an argument, which had come down to him saying he didn't care for me anymore, and didn't want to be my friend again- Even with me begging for him to not. The next day, he came to me with the reason for his words being " I had a bad day at school, and wanted to be left alone. " -Something along those lines. With that, I + Support this. That's no reason to +support this. This never happened in-game, at this point that was word against words. Inconsiderate means thoughtlessly causing hurt or inconvenience to others. Be for real. I'm not inconsiderate on the community because I actually care about what the community thinks. I don't give anything for the people I dislike and everybody has grudges and hates. I mean, I don't like a lot of people. Mega has openly insulted me. I get pissed at those people and they get pissed at me. This argument is basically. " I'm an asshole, remove me. " Despite this, you should all actually realize the truth to the matter and that is Mega also has done a lot of asshole things and I could name a shit-ton. I'm trying to say. You don't see me posting shit in the admin complaint thread on Roadhazards.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 8:45:19 GMT -9
Summary of this so far:
-Supports: Me, Daisuke, Gold, Music (Edit if I missed anyone)
+ Supports: Mega, Easyfind (Edit if I missed anyone)
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Post by RED on Nov 15, 2015 11:33:10 GMT -9
I have a perfect example of this, being when I first got a taste of just how inconsiderate he can be. We had gotten into an argument, which had come down to him saying he didn't care for me anymore, and didn't want to be my friend again- Even with me begging for him to not. The next day, he came to me with the reason for his words being " I had a bad day at school, and wanted to be left alone. " -Something along those lines. With that, I + Support this. That's no reason to +support this. This never happened in-game, at this point that was word against words. Inconsiderate means thoughtlessly causing hurt or inconvenience to others. Be for real. I'm not inconsiderate on the community because I actually care about what the community thinks. I don't give anything for the people I dislike and everybody has grudges and hates. I mean, I don't like a lot of people. Mega has openly insulted me. I get pissed at those people and they get pissed at me. This argument is basically. " I'm an asshole, remove me. " Despite this, you should all actually realize the truth to the matter and that is Mega also has done a lot of asshole things and I could name a shit-ton. I'm trying to say. You don't see me posting shit in the admin complaint thread on Roadhazards.
I want people to know how awful of a person you are to some of us behind the scenes. Nobody else was going to make this topic, so I did.
By the way, give me several examples of me openly insulting you.
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Post by Buizelzzz on Nov 15, 2015 11:39:04 GMT -9
That's no reason to +support this. This never happened in-game, at this point that was word against words. Inconsiderate means thoughtlessly causing hurt or inconvenience to others. Be for real. I'm not inconsiderate on the community because I actually care about what the community thinks. I don't give anything for the people I dislike and everybody has grudges and hates. I mean, I don't like a lot of people. Mega has openly insulted me. I get pissed at those people and they get pissed at me. This argument is basically. " I'm an asshole, remove me. " Despite this, you should all actually realize the truth to the matter and that is Mega also has done a lot of asshole things and I could name a shit-ton. I'm trying to say. You don't see me posting shit in the admin complaint thread on Roadhazards.
I want people to know how awful of a person you are to some of us behind the scenes. Nobody else was going to make this topic, so I did.
By the way, give me several examples of me openly insulting you.
No, I won't. I'm not going to give you the 'several examples' because you already know them. Calling me petty should be enough anyhow. I won't feed into your aggression. Yeah, my awfulness to you and your friends. Boo-hoo, I insulted you. I didn't insult the community however and I keep my awfulness away from the community.
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Post by RED on Nov 15, 2015 11:44:52 GMT -9
I want people to know how awful of a person you are to some of us behind the scenes. Nobody else was going to make this topic, so I did.
By the way, give me several examples of me openly insulting you.
No, I won't. I'm not going to give you the 'several examples' because you already know them. Calling me petty should be enough anyhow. I won't feed into your aggression. Yeah, my awfulness to you and your friends. Boo-hoo, I insulted you. I didn't insult the community however and I keep my awfulness away from the community. You mean you're not going to give me 'several examples' because you don't have any, and you're trying to use a mere "petty" as opposed to the proof of you calling me a prick and telling me to suck Zelda's pussy. Get over that, you're overreacting and struggling for points right now.
Being an awful person should still influence whether or not you should be admin.
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